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									Library Circulation Histories Workshop Forum - Recent Posts				            </title>
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                        <title>RE: Summing Up</title>
                        <link>https://lchw.bsudsl.org/community/general-plenary-session-forum/summing-up/paged/2/#post-159</link>
                        <pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2021 14:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[A belated thanks to @jconnoll99 the Ball State team for putting together this wonderful conference and to everyone for the vibrant discussion. Personal events unfortunately prevented me from...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A belated thanks to @jconnoll99 the Ball State team for putting together this wonderful conference and to everyone for the vibrant discussion. Personal events unfortunately prevented me from participating in the second half, but it was a pleasure to see everyone's presentations. I'll definitely be pointing others to the presentations here. I hope there will be a future opportunity for reconvening in-person on all this exciting work!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: Panel 2 Discussion</title>
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                        <pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2021 20:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@jim-connolly I&#039;m particularly interested in the second paragraph of your response, about how we might work more with community groups. The Colored Conventions Project (not a library project...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@jim-connolly I'm particularly interested in the second paragraph of your response, about how we might work more with community groups. The Colored Conventions Project (not a library project, but a DH one) has done a really nice job of working with community. While Protestant Dissent looks different in the 21st century than it did in the 18th century, it would be nice to draw more connections between them and the project. With the Jesuit Libraries Project, one objective was to get members of the current day Loyola community to connect with their past, which worked very well with the student interns. Getting beyond Humanities disciplines (like to Catholic Studies) was a bit harder, given how much other competition there is within the university for students' attention. </p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: Summing Up</title>
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                        <pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2021 19:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@kyleroberts6
Thanks, Kyle.  I think there&#039;s enough interest in continuing the conversation (over Zoom or F2F) about how to build such an open data repository.  That said, Frank&#039;s skepticis...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@kyleroberts6</p>
<p>Thanks, Kyle.  I think there's enough interest in continuing the conversation (over Zoom or F2F) about how to build such an open data repository.  That said, Frank's skepticism is worth noting.  Further discussion is on my to-do list. More soon on that front.  </p>]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://lchw.bsudsl.org/community/"></category>                        <dc:creator>Jim Connolly</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Panel 2 Discussion</title>
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                        <pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2021 19:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@mikesanders
I&#039;m not sure if this directly answers your question, but one advantage of digital humanities work is that almost all of the work you produce reaches both academic and public au...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@mikesanders</p>
<p>I'm not sure if this directly answers your question, but one advantage of digital humanities work is that almost all of the work you produce reaches both academic and public audiences.  In the case of WMR, we've had plenty of academic (research and teaching) usage but we've also drawn people just curious about reading habits, or even people using it as a genealogy resource.  That can help with grant funding by allowing you to stress both the broad value for public audiences and the research value, sometimes stressing one or the other depending on the funding agent and the project's goal. </p>
<p>I do think there is a difference between work geared generally for a public audience and that which involves collaborating with a specific group or community.  In the latter case, there are often concrete benefits to both sides of the partnership, academic and community, that can help as we seek funding. We've been involved with various projects where we've worked with labor unions, churches, nonprofits and of course the Muncie Public Library.  These groups appreciate the recognition that comes with these kinds of community-based work while at the same time we've been able to work with them in ways that advance various parts of our research agenda.</p>]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://lchw.bsudsl.org/community/"></category>                        <dc:creator>Jim Connolly</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Panel 2 Discussion</title>
                        <link>https://lchw.bsudsl.org/community/general-panel-2-forum/panel-2-discussion/paged/2/#post-155</link>
                        <pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2021 10:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@kyleroberts6 I think you raise a vitally important point about the need to engage with people beyond the academy.  Clearly, there are very many good reasons for doing this, but one which I ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@kyleroberts6 I think you raise a vitally important point about the need to engage with people beyond the academy.  Clearly, there are very many good reasons for doing this, but one which I suspect is going to become increasingly (and depressingly) important is the need to explain the value of Humanities research and if we're working with extra-academic communities from the outset, then this will be much easier.  </p>
<p>A general question for people involved in this panel - is there a difference between extra-academic engagement with particular institutions (often those we collaborate with on a given project) and engaging the 'general public'?  Anybody like to share examples of these activities?</p>]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://lchw.bsudsl.org/community/"></category>                        <dc:creator>MikeSanders</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Summing Up</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sun, 02 May 2021 18:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@jconnoll99 Adding my thanks and apologizing for being tardy in replying. A great summing up. I&#039;d love us all to think about what an open data repository for library data might look like, a ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a title="jconnoll99" href="https://lchw.bsudsl.org/community/profile/jconnoll99/">@jconnoll99</a> Adding my thanks and apologizing for being tardy in replying. A great summing up. I'd love us all to think about what an open data repository for library data might look like, a one-stop shop where users can download our various data sets and, to take it one step further, have a site akin to what <span>@julieanne-lamond was describing for the Australian Common Reader where folks could start to make visualizations of the data. The exercise of disengaging from the bespoke platform and looking for the overlap in the fields of our datasets might be quite revealing. As many have signaled, the book has longer staying power than the borrower, so it makes a useful node across time and space. As the global turn continues to be explored across so many disciplines, there might be some really interesting things to find across the English-speaking world (which seems to be another common denominator to these projects) by putting these various projects together in terms of the longevity of books. Another conversation might be about behaviors of borrowers, but I'd defer to those who have worked out salient differences between active and occasional borrowers, and issues of gender, class, and race might prove illuminating across these sets. </span></p>
<p>All and all, very happy to have participated and interested in continuing the conversation. Thanks for all the work that went into making it happen!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: Panel 2 Discussion</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sun, 02 May 2021 17:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@kyleroberts6 - Concur on fields.  For borrowing projects, there are quite a small number of fields that would be essential for interoperability: with just the identity of the book and the d...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@kyleroberts6 - Concur on fields.  For borrowing projects, there are quite a small number of fields that would be essential for interoperability: with just the identity of the book and the date borrowed (as proxy for the time of engagement) you can do a lot of the comparative work, although identifying information is more powerful if standardised across fields (i.e. disaggregating author, title and edition information, or doing this work by proxy by linking to a standard reference like the ESTC).  Comparing borrowers is a bit more tricky, which is one of the reasons why for the two AHRC projects, we're working with a shared occupation taxonomy to try and make this easier to do.</p>]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://lchw.bsudsl.org/community/"></category>                        <dc:creator>MSangster</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Panel 2 Discussion</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sun, 02 May 2021 17:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@mikesanders Sorry for the extra long delay here! All of the above. With Dissenting Academies Online, there were a few postgraduates who were given access to the data or hired on an hourly b...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@mikesanders Sorry for the extra long delay here! All of the above. With Dissenting Academies Online, there were a few postgraduates who were given access to the data or hired on an hourly basis to do specific task, but they weren't really part of the project team. I took an opposite approach when I launched the Jesuit Libraries Provenance Project when I got to Loyola (https://jesuitlibrariesprovenanceproject.com/). I started that project in a graduate seminar where 16 graduate students and I reconstructed the original library catalogue for St Ignatius College (precursor to Loyola). Syllabus for that class here: http://libblogs.luc.edu/archives/  We launched the second phase, to track down all of the original books from the library, at the initiation of several students, who served as project managers, researchers, digital technicians and the like. It was a fantastic experience for me and the students, who have gone on to a range of careers - and who get credit on the website for their contributions. The thing to keep in mind is that all of the supervision on the project was completely unpaid work for me, while I tried to ensure students either received credit and sometimes stipends for their digital work. My students responded very positively to this opportunity and I'd encourage others to open up their projects - and to really let students play a central role in design, implementation, and analysis.  I loved hearing how much <span>@msangster and <a title="KatieHalsey" href="https://lchw.bsudsl.org/community/profile/katiehalsey/">@katiehalsey</a> had opened up Books and Borrowing to students. It's alot of work, but it's worth it.</span></p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: Panel 2 Discussion</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sun, 02 May 2021 16:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@msangster A good point to @mikesanders question. It would be an interesting exercise to map out the primary data fields for the virtual library projects out there, both for holdings and bor...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@msangster A good point to <a title="MikeSanders" href="https://lchw.bsudsl.org/community/profile/mikesanders/">@mikesanders</a> question. It would be an interesting exercise to map out the primary data fields for the virtual library projects out there, both for holdings and borrowings data. While the data, as I think you are saying, is going to reflect the original source data, it would also be helpful for individuals who are going to launch future projects to see where the common ground is, both in terms of fields employed, but also how many are basing their work on MARC records (or subsets, like ESTC records for the 18thLibrariesOnline project). This mapping would also reveal how inter-operative - or not! - the current projects would be with each other.</p>]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://lchw.bsudsl.org/community/"></category>                        <dc:creator>kyleroberts6</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Panel 2 Discussion</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sun, 02 May 2021 16:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@mikesanders Thanks for the questions and apologies for the delay in responding. The beauty of library projects is that they open up to so many different disciplines. Factoring in the end go...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@mikesanders Thanks for the questions and apologies for the delay in responding. The beauty of library projects is that they open up to so many different disciplines. Factoring in the end goal is important, of course. Dissenting Academies Online was created to write a new history of dissenting academies and the co-PIs were a historian and a literary scholar, so perhaps not surprisingly, the postdocs on the project mirrored that. Given that the data we worked with (MARC records) came out of the world of library and information sciences, it was good to have a co-PI who was a librarian as well, but in the first generation, the focus really was always on humanities end users. A decade later, there are many more digital humanists out there, who I think can hit that balance between content and structure. New projects starting today would benefit from having at least one self-identified DHer on the project.</p>
<p>I'd love to add my two cents to your question to Katie and Matt as well. It's such an important question. Our data is from the 18thC but our users live in the 21stC. We want to keep the integrity of the former, but if we want actual users then we have to make the project accessible to them. This has really come for Ben Bankhurst (Shepherd University) and me on a project which came out of a joint-taught course on the American Revolution. The Maryland Loyalism Project (<a href="http://loyalismproject.com" target="true">loyalismproject.com</a>) is a digital archive and database of the Black and White Marylanders who identified as Loyalists during the American Revolution. We built the project with our students, for whom we felt it was essential they have access to digital surrogates of original 18th century documents (in this case, the Loyalist Claims Commission and the Book of Negroes) but they also be able to navigate the information in those records in ways that 21st century folks do. So the digital archive has scans of each document with diplomatic transcriptions, structured on the format of the original manuscripts. The database, on the other hand, extracts all manner of information about individuals named in those records and allows people to search and make connections between them. Right now we are working on restoring the names of the enslaved women and men who are listed simply as unnamed property in the original records but each of whom has an individual database record, as one small step to restore their humanity.</p>
<p>I do worry, in general, we do not bring enough non-scholars into conversation when we design these projects and that we lose vast swaths of potential audiences by creating projects simply not accessible to them.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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